Lynndie England Convicted for Abu Ghraib “Abuse”
Lynndie England Convicted for Abu Ghraib “Abuse”
Let me get this straight: This petite little waif, who could not physically hurt much of anyone; who had little rank; and who has not the greatest intellect – is being CONVICTED and JAILED of “abuse” of enemy prisoners? (Hat tip: Drudge.)
Okay. Let’s see: She let prisoners around by a dog leash. She laughed at their (possibly aroused) genitals. And watched as her superiors piled up the prisoners in “human pyramids”, etc. She also allegedly “conspired” to do something naughty regarding the entire prison abuse scandal. Bottom line: No blood was drawn; no limbs were severed; no lives were lost among her poor, abused, prisoner “victims”. What is WRONG with this picture?
I really don’t think this lame conviction signals to anyone that we are serious about either fighting to win or about assigning true blame for the alleged “abuse”.
Either we are going to go FULL-ON “politically correct” and CLEAN HOUSE and LOSE THIS WAR by booting SecDef Rumsfeld and a bevy of “perfumed princes” for THEIR RESPONSIBILITY for all this dastardly “prisoner abuse” – or we are going to fight this war to win it (by playing hardball).
As it is, we are doing NEITHER. And the enemy is laughing all the way to the media polling companies.
I only wish that Senator John McCain realized this, as well, as he is going ballistic over even NEWER “revelations” of (shock!) prisoner abuse!
Well, I am not happy with prisoner abuse, but how about we just tell our boys (and girls) to knock it off and GET ON WITH THE WAR AT HAND! After all, our ENEMY does things like blow up children and saw unarmed prisoners’ heads off with dull knives while praising “Allah”.
For some reason, these (TRUE) atrocities at the hands of the Islamofascists are rarely deemed worthy of reportorial outrage by the MSM.
As Michael Savage said on his radio talk show yesterday regarding the prosecution of the war in Iraq (quoting him loosely):
“We're going to lose the war if we continue to use 17th-century methods. We need to use our airpower. They are more heartless than we are.
Either we are at war or we are not at war. We need to go into the Sunni triangle. George Bush cannot do it, because he has been compromised by the American Left.”
I agree with Savage implicitly: I don’t think that either Bush, nor Rumsfeld, nor the Pentagon’s “Perfumed Princes” gets it that the nonstop “prisoner abuse” exposes and show trials are ONLY encouraging the enemy (both within and without) and DIScouraging our fighting men, who run the risk daily of being disemboweled and/or dismembered by roadside bombs planted by the sweet darlings fighting against us.
Sign me: Fed up with the nonsense.
Free Lynndie England. Free ALL the alleged “prisoner abuse” soldier criminals. Kill the enemy. Win the war!
Let me get this straight: This petite little waif, who could not physically hurt much of anyone; who had little rank; and who has not the greatest intellect – is being CONVICTED and JAILED of “abuse” of enemy prisoners? (Hat tip: Drudge.)
Okay. Let’s see: She let prisoners around by a dog leash. She laughed at their (possibly aroused) genitals. And watched as her superiors piled up the prisoners in “human pyramids”, etc. She also allegedly “conspired” to do something naughty regarding the entire prison abuse scandal. Bottom line: No blood was drawn; no limbs were severed; no lives were lost among her poor, abused, prisoner “victims”. What is WRONG with this picture?
I really don’t think this lame conviction signals to anyone that we are serious about either fighting to win or about assigning true blame for the alleged “abuse”.
Either we are going to go FULL-ON “politically correct” and CLEAN HOUSE and LOSE THIS WAR by booting SecDef Rumsfeld and a bevy of “perfumed princes” for THEIR RESPONSIBILITY for all this dastardly “prisoner abuse” – or we are going to fight this war to win it (by playing hardball).
As it is, we are doing NEITHER. And the enemy is laughing all the way to the media polling companies.
I only wish that Senator John McCain realized this, as well, as he is going ballistic over even NEWER “revelations” of (shock!) prisoner abuse!
Well, I am not happy with prisoner abuse, but how about we just tell our boys (and girls) to knock it off and GET ON WITH THE WAR AT HAND! After all, our ENEMY does things like blow up children and saw unarmed prisoners’ heads off with dull knives while praising “Allah”.
For some reason, these (TRUE) atrocities at the hands of the Islamofascists are rarely deemed worthy of reportorial outrage by the MSM.
As Michael Savage said on his radio talk show yesterday regarding the prosecution of the war in Iraq (quoting him loosely):
“We're going to lose the war if we continue to use 17th-century methods. We need to use our airpower. They are more heartless than we are.
Either we are at war or we are not at war. We need to go into the Sunni triangle. George Bush cannot do it, because he has been compromised by the American Left.”
I agree with Savage implicitly: I don’t think that either Bush, nor Rumsfeld, nor the Pentagon’s “Perfumed Princes” gets it that the nonstop “prisoner abuse” exposes and show trials are ONLY encouraging the enemy (both within and without) and DIScouraging our fighting men, who run the risk daily of being disemboweled and/or dismembered by roadside bombs planted by the sweet darlings fighting against us.
Sign me: Fed up with the nonsense.
Free Lynndie England. Free ALL the alleged “prisoner abuse” soldier criminals. Kill the enemy. Win the war!
13 Comments:
I have real mixed feelings on this one based on info from others who are serving. Most of them believe that she should have been prosecuted and that she and her 'friends' caused bad things to happen to others when this hit the news. Since we can't 'kill' a news story, even when it may harm our soldiers, I just don't know the answer. You make great points as well and I'm inclined to agree with most. I guess the bottom line is that no matter what you do, if it's wrong, and you're stupid enough to enjoy it and have pics taken, then you should go to jail for total stupidity if nothing else. If it were not for the photos, the MSM would have been forced to drop the story...so "Thanks Bunches Lyndie and friends".
The pictures were a big mistake. I often wondered, who were they going to show those pictures to? If I was one of their family members,I certainly wouldn't want to see them. Show me and Iraqi child or camel, not naked prisoners.
My son said that the military is in a stagnant hunt for terrorist.
It does seem they are doing the same thing over and over, clean out a town, pull out, then the terrorist move right back in.
He thinks they need to try something different, but what do you try is the question?
Hi, sk! Excellent and thoughtful post. However, we don't have to let the pro-Defeatist side set the agenda. If we blink and blanche and go into conniptions every time a soldier slugs a prisoner, we are never going to get through this war. Without ADVOCATING this stuff, we need to compare what we did to what the enemy did. We need to say: "And . . . ?: War is hell" and then GIVE THEM (the Jihadists) HELL. Bush and Rummy blinked on the Abu Ghraib thing and Little Lynndie is their latest sacrificial lamb. Lynndie a criminal? Only, if -- as you say -- terminal stupidity is prosecutable. However, this will not "tide over" the Left. Now they smell blood. Moral: NEVER make deals with the devil (or his Liberal Senators or his MSM reporters). -- gunjam
Hey, Mil Mom! How are you! Good post!
As both you and sk point out, the photos were very dumb. However, we COULD have had ONE senator with the cojones to say: "Okay, you Jihadists! This is the kind of treatment YOU are going to get in our prisoners if you keep blowing up children, etc!"
What your son says (about taking, leaving, and re-taking towns) bothers me greatly. It is a re-run from Viet Nam. It will cost us lives and we will never win following that script.
Michael Savage suggests that we send in our planes to pulverize known hotbeds (towns), such as Ramadi (after giving civilians notice to leave). As it is, we are using our boys to do the dirty work -- and this is costing us lives.
Bottom line: If we are not willing to play for keeps, then what the hell are we doing over there anyway?
This running a war by rules worthy of a "Marquis de Queensbury" is a tribute to how morally corrupt and politically correct we have become.
Memo to Rummy and Bush: Time to fight LIKE WE MEAN IT! - gunjam
I am in agreement. My son used the words that he heard his Grandma say once and now it is her words of wisdom, "Shit or get off the pot." In other words time to fight like we mean it.
I agree with fighting like we mean it. I've heard some guys say that they can't win while trying to be so PC and having to fear JAG at every turn. My personal view, which counts for nothing, is to 1)send the media home 2)reduce the number of JAG personell that are looking over shoulders 3)get the damn job done.
Hi, mil mom! Good to hear from you? How is your son doing over there?
I like that one: Let's tell Bush/Rummy to "shit or get off the pot"!
(That is pot as in "potty" not "weed"!)
--gunjam
Hi, sk! Wow TERRIFIC post! You have NAILED it! How did you hear about the JAG problem? From some of our boys over there? What a shame. At least the reporters are civilians, but the JAGS are IN UNIFORM, for crying out loud! -- gunjam
Keep in mind that anybody with JAG is also just following orders and enforcing rules. So SOMEBODY needs to change the damn orders, not to mention the rules, and make them consistent! Note: I did not say laws.
Rofl! That is a good one. It is the potty. My mom (Grandma), who is 86, (I don't think) still doesn't know what pot is... That reminds of the song. When Coke was a Coke and hoe was a hoe. When you was crackin up you were tellin jokes...etc...LOL.
PS: My son is good as he can be.
Mil Mom...please tell your son THANK YOU for all of us!
And I know the song.... unfortunately it dates those of us who do remember those things:)
Hi, sk! Yes: You are right with regard to the misguided "orders" and "rules of engagement", etc that are handcuffing our troops at the moment. -- gunjam
Hi, Mil Mom! Glad you got a laugh out of my post. Cute song. Glad your son is doing well! -- gunjam
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